More like civilized but EVIL people. Why any law at all that existed so many DECADES before the territory became a state can possibly be relevant baffles all intelligent people.
Expect workers’ rights and quality of life to nosedive when the S(Fascist)COTUS eventually rules on eliminating the NLRB and other labor protections like OSHA. A form of slavery by any other name.
“… Yes, Republican states are now starting to emulate the Civil War-era south
The Texas governor rejecting federal immigration laws has echoes of the Confederate states
We’re not even a full month into a crucial election year in the United States, and it already feels like the country is coming apart at the seams.
In a standoff that has dragged on for weeks now, Texas governor Greg Abbott, a right-wing Catholic, has refused to allow federal Border Patrol agents to enter a public park along the Rio Grande where refugees and asylum seekers are known to cross. As summarised by Camilo Montoya-Galvez, reporting for CBS: “Federal law requires Border Patrol to process migrants who enter the US illegally to determine whether they should be deported, transferred to another federal agency, sent to a long-term immigration detention centre or released pending a review of their asylum claims.”
Operating outside that chain of command, Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to deploy razor wire as a gruesome “deterrent” to migrant crossings, and these troops have refused to allow the Biden administration to remove the razor wire. While states can have their own laws on many things in the American federal system, federal supremacy in immigration and border enforcement is a long-established precedent. Troublingly, only five of the nine justices currently occupying seats on the illegitimately stacked, right-wing partisan Supreme Court proved willing to uphold this precedent in a recent decision on Texas’s defiance.
That narrow decision preserved federal control over immigration policy, but Abbott continues to deny federal agents entry to the park in direct defiance of the Supreme Court. …" — opendemocracy .net /en /5050 /usa-texas-greg-abbott-civil-war-confederates-biden
Ya! The Constitution is the oldest document we have. How can anything it says have any relevance today. How about the Bible, talk about old!!! (sarcasm filter back on)
Republicans think it’s a swell idea to remove freedoms and substitute tyranny by sleazy, feckless, crime-family politicians pandering to puritanical Talibangelicals who worship a false Messiah.
The single-minded pandering by MAGA “leaders” who pander to the religious freaks reminds me of the screaming brainwashed mobs after the Swiftboating of John Kerry, chanting that childish, mocking sing-song refrain:
♪ flip, flop… ♩
I’m 100% pro choice.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
I’m 100% pro-life
♪ flip, flop… ♩
Yes, a woman should be punished.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
I meant that the doctors and nurses or anybody who helps should be punished
♪ flip, flop… ♩
Let the states decide! If it’s a total ban in one state, a woman can just hop on a bus.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
_"Will I sign a nationwide ban", you ask? Next question!_
♫ flip, flop… ♪
Not to worry. Our amnesiac “base” is too stupid to know they’re being skrood.
A couple of days ago was the 159th anniversary of the day an outspoken advocate of Traditional Values and States’ Rights exercised a “Second Amendment Solution” on a president who was actively working to secure the freedoms of a class of Americans to whom they had previously been denied, on the grounds that it constituted “tyranny.”
Ruined the evening for a lot of theatergoers, as well.
They reach far beyond 1854 to attack women. Justice Alito, to “justify” his position on destroying Roe, cites and quotes Sir Matthew Hale, a long-dead, infamous 17th Century English misogynist whose writings have caused enduring misery to women for centuries, and has long been discredited. Until now. The marital rape exemption — the legal notion that a married woman cannot be raped by her husband — traces to Hale. So does a long-used instruction to jurors to disregard reports of rape. So, in a way, do the infamous Salem Witch Trials, in which women (and some men) were hanged. So laws against marital rape is another “implicit right” that could be overturned.
Alito, in his opinion, invokes “Eminent Common-Law Authorities,” including Hale, to show how abortion was viewed historically not as a right, but as a criminal act. Courts have long leaned on precedents established by old cases and the scholarship of legal authorities from centuries gone by. But what happens when you trace citations back to an ancient source? In both Alito and Hale’s cases, you find a misogynistic man conceiving precepts out of thin air while clinging to notions that were already anachronistic in the last half of the 17th century. And justices in Arizona are thumping Bibles in their “rulings”.
And all they need are “test cases”, not laws, to overturn centuries of human rights, and thus, really are the Special Legislative Branch of the MAGA / Nazi Party.
BTW, The Dobbs decision is cited by Uganda as source material for their murderous pogroms against the LGBTQ community. They cite the precedent of the MAGA SCOTUS decisions to imprison and execute gays and minorities.
IRL, both sides of the Civil War used conscripts, that is people who only fought as soldiers because they were coerced into doing so by the government.
A lot of people who fought & died never wanted to be there and didn’t even support the cause they were made to fight for.
It’s baffling how “liberals” decry the arguments used in justifying slavery in 1864, but use those same arguments in justifying a woman’s right to kill her offspring, in denial of all scientific information now available.
Flashaaway about 1 month ago
Savages!
Godfreydaniel about 1 month ago
More like civilized but EVIL people. Why any law at all that existed so many DECADES before the territory became a state can possibly be relevant baffles all intelligent people.
braindead Premium Member about 1 month ago
When America was Great Again — according to MAGAts.
ibFrank about 1 month ago
How can a territory’s law become a state’s law when they are totally different types of governments?
sevaar777 about 1 month ago
Expect workers’ rights and quality of life to nosedive when the S(Fascist)COTUS eventually rules on eliminating the NLRB and other labor protections like OSHA. A form of slavery by any other name.
GOGOPOWERANGERS about 1 month ago
Hopefully challenges Greg Abbot to a duel
akachman Premium Member about 1 month ago
That’s the GOP and MAGA way. Sick SOBs.
The Nodding Head about 1 month ago
That’s history used correctly and effectively. Kudos.
MC3D about 1 month ago
Arizona wasn’t even a state in 1864 and confederate soldiers were leaving the United “States” anyway.
superposition about 1 month ago
At the start of 2024 …
“… Yes, Republican states are now starting to emulate the Civil War-era south
The Texas governor rejecting federal immigration laws has echoes of the Confederate states
We’re not even a full month into a crucial election year in the United States, and it already feels like the country is coming apart at the seams.
In a standoff that has dragged on for weeks now, Texas governor Greg Abbott, a right-wing Catholic, has refused to allow federal Border Patrol agents to enter a public park along the Rio Grande where refugees and asylum seekers are known to cross. As summarised by Camilo Montoya-Galvez, reporting for CBS: “Federal law requires Border Patrol to process migrants who enter the US illegally to determine whether they should be deported, transferred to another federal agency, sent to a long-term immigration detention centre or released pending a review of their asylum claims.”
Operating outside that chain of command, Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to deploy razor wire as a gruesome “deterrent” to migrant crossings, and these troops have refused to allow the Biden administration to remove the razor wire. While states can have their own laws on many things in the American federal system, federal supremacy in immigration and border enforcement is a long-established precedent. Troublingly, only five of the nine justices currently occupying seats on the illegitimately stacked, right-wing partisan Supreme Court proved willing to uphold this precedent in a recent decision on Texas’s defiance.
That narrow decision preserved federal control over immigration policy, but Abbott continues to deny federal agents entry to the park in direct defiance of the Supreme Court. …" — opendemocracy .net /en /5050 /usa-texas-greg-abbott-civil-war-confederates-biden
Alberta Oil Premium Member about 1 month ago
There must be a few old laws about owning slaves that are still on the books.. If we’re going back in time lets go all the way.
mac04416 about 1 month ago
Ya! The Constitution is the oldest document we have. How can anything it says have any relevance today. How about the Bible, talk about old!!! (sarcasm filter back on)
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
Republicans think it’s a swell idea to remove freedoms and substitute tyranny by sleazy, feckless, crime-family politicians pandering to puritanical Talibangelicals who worship a false Messiah.
piper_gilbert about 1 month ago
I want to personally thank the Arizona Supreme Court and the Arizona Republican Legislature for guaranteeing a win for Biden in Arizona. Thank you.
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
The single-minded pandering by MAGA “leaders” who pander to the religious freaks reminds me of the screaming brainwashed mobs after the Swiftboating of John Kerry, chanting that childish, mocking sing-song refrain:
♪ flip, flop… ♩
I’m 100% pro choice.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
I’m 100% pro-life
♪ flip, flop… ♩
Yes, a woman should be punished.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
I meant that the doctors and nurses or anybody who helps should be punished
♪ flip, flop… ♩
Let the states decide! If it’s a total ban in one state, a woman can just hop on a bus.
♪ flip, flop… ♫
_"Will I sign a nationwide ban", you ask? Next question!_
♫ flip, flop… ♪
Not to worry. Our amnesiac “base” is too stupid to know they’re being skrood.
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
“She can just hop on a boss and go to a [non-slave] State.” (until we make Gilead official)
I can see it now, with hubby smiling and waving to the little woman on the bus:
“So long, honey! Have a nice abortion! Don’t forget to pick up beer on the way home!”
morningglory73 Premium Member about 1 month ago
Why is this happening? It’s so wrong in such an inhuman way.
Radish the wordsmith about 1 month ago
Confederate republicans believe you should be their slave.
Backwards anti science unenlightened republicans refuse to let the USA progress.
fritzoid Premium Member about 1 month ago
A couple of days ago was the 159th anniversary of the day an outspoken advocate of Traditional Values and States’ Rights exercised a “Second Amendment Solution” on a president who was actively working to secure the freedoms of a class of Americans to whom they had previously been denied, on the grounds that it constituted “tyranny.”
Ruined the evening for a lot of theatergoers, as well.
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
They reach far beyond 1854 to attack women. Justice Alito, to “justify” his position on destroying Roe, cites and quotes Sir Matthew Hale, a long-dead, infamous 17th Century English misogynist whose writings have caused enduring misery to women for centuries, and has long been discredited. Until now. The marital rape exemption — the legal notion that a married woman cannot be raped by her husband — traces to Hale. So does a long-used instruction to jurors to disregard reports of rape. So, in a way, do the infamous Salem Witch Trials, in which women (and some men) were hanged. So laws against marital rape is another “implicit right” that could be overturned.
Alito, in his opinion, invokes “Eminent Common-Law Authorities,” including Hale, to show how abortion was viewed historically not as a right, but as a criminal act. Courts have long leaned on precedents established by old cases and the scholarship of legal authorities from centuries gone by. But what happens when you trace citations back to an ancient source? In both Alito and Hale’s cases, you find a misogynistic man conceiving precepts out of thin air while clinging to notions that were already anachronistic in the last half of the 17th century. And justices in Arizona are thumping Bibles in their “rulings”.
And all they need are “test cases”, not laws, to overturn centuries of human rights, and thus, really are the Special Legislative Branch of the MAGA / Nazi Party.
Zuhl's Wife about 1 month ago
BTW, The Dobbs decision is cited by Uganda as source material for their murderous pogroms against the LGBTQ community. They cite the precedent of the MAGA SCOTUS decisions to imprison and execute gays and minorities.
Ironhold about 1 month ago
IRL, both sides of the Civil War used conscripts, that is people who only fought as soldiers because they were coerced into doing so by the government.
A lot of people who fought & died never wanted to be there and didn’t even support the cause they were made to fight for.
SammySnyder about 1 month ago
It’s baffling how “liberals” decry the arguments used in justifying slavery in 1864, but use those same arguments in justifying a woman’s right to kill her offspring, in denial of all scientific information now available.
cracker65 about 1 month ago
They screwed themselves by passing this law. November will not be nice for the Arizona magats.